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		<title>Does Jesus Make You Nervous Obama?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 17:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The latest attack from the White House is against religion, faith, and more specifically Christianity.  Not only are we not a Christian nation (by Obama&#8217;s words) but we must also check our principles at the door if we are to have this man speak at a Christian institution.  The latest example took place at Georgetown University. What [...]]]></description>
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<p>The latest attack from the White House is against religion, faith, and more specifically Christianity.  Not only are we not a Christian nation (by Obama&#8217;s words) but we must also check our principles at the door if we are to have this man speak at a Christian institution.  The latest example took place at <a href="http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=46667" target="_blank">Georgetown University</a>.</p>
<p>What scares me about this act is not so much the fact that Christianity is under attack (which I believe it is to some extent), but the blatant narcissism attached to this request.  Obama cannot share the stage with the name or a symbol of Jesus appearing before him?  <span id="more-1885"></span>This should be eerily similar to any narcissistic statists and socialists in history.  I remember one particular leader who went after religion and also took down all religious symbols and replaced them with pagan symbols only to turn it into eventual self worship, believing he was a deity in his own right.  This is just plain eerie.  Cue my tin-foil hat!</p>
<blockquote><p>Georgetown University says it covered over the monogram “IHS”&#8211;symbolizing the name of Jesus Christ—because it was inscribed on a pediment on the stage where President Obama spoke at the university on Tuesday and the White House had asked Georgetown to cover up all signs and symbols there.</p>
<p>“In coordinating the logistical arrangements for yesterday’s event, Georgetown honored the White House staff’s request to cover all of the Georgetown University signage and symbols behind Gaston Hall stage,” Julie Green Bataille, associate vice president for communications at Georgetown, told CNSNews.com.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>“The White House wanted a simple backdrop of flags and pipe and drape for the speech, consistent with what they’ve done for other policy speeches,” she added. “Frankly, the pipe and drape wasn’t high enough by itself to fully cover the IHS and cross above the GU seal and <strong><em>it seemed most respectful to have them covered so as not to be seen out of context.”</em></strong></p></blockquote>
<p>The only thing to be taken out of context in Obama&#8217;s mind would be those in the audience not worshiping him and still being aware of a real God on stage (not him).</p>
<p>Obama, <a href="http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Jesus-Missing-From-Obamas-Georgetown-Speech.html" target="_blank">never mentioned Jesus </a>specifically in his address to the student body.</p>
<p>The President used the Sermon on the Mount in his speech and also attempted to quote Matthew 7, but he did so incorrectly when he referred to building our lives on the rock of government.  The rock in which Christians are to build their lives is Jesus and nothing else.  The sheer fact that he feels government can be substituted for Jesus should prove to any independent thinker that this man believes government to be God and therefore he is a narcissistic statist believing he, himself, being in the most powerful position in the government, is in fact God.</p>
<p>We have clear language in the 1st Amendment that states that we are allowed freedom of religion not freedom <em>FROM</em> religion.</p>
<p>No university cemented in religious principles should give up their beliefs and the very foundation it was established upon to appease a government official.</p>
<p>How can anyone argue the fact that the ridiculous and unnecessary request made by Obama was anything but either shame or contempt for Christianity?</p>
<p>The left&#8217;s inability to grasp the real meaning behind &#8220;separation of church and state,&#8221; boggles the mind.  The separation means that no state institution can force you to believe or practice a certain religion or force a religion upon you.  It does mean that you are allowed to worship whatever deity you see fit. The government can be religious, it just can&#8217;t tell you how to be religious.</p>
<p>By taking down the symbol they are in fact the hypocrites in this scenario because they are telling a school what religion it should reflect and by forcing it to take down the predominant IHS symbol where Obama spoke, they are offending Christians (who have just as much right to believe what they do as atheists and agnostics), and they are telling an institution what to do and how to do it in regard to their very own faith.  If any of the audience was offended by the IHS symbol one would think they would not have applied to a Jesuit school in the first place.<br />
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		<title>Expulsion threatened over prayer for sick teacher</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 16:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[WorldNetDaily Attorneys representing two students who have been threatened with expulsion by a California college because of a prayer for a sick professor say a federal judge has refused the school&#8217;s efforts to have the case dismissed. &#8220;It&#8217;s outrageous,&#8221; said Brad Dacus, president of the Pacific Justice Institute, which is working on the case brought [...]]]></description>
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<p><a href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/"><span style="font-size: x-small;">WorldNetDaily</span></a></p>
<p>Attorneys representing two <a id="KonaLink0" class="kLink" href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;pageId=94397#" target="_top"><span style="font-weight: 400; font-size: 17px; color: #0000ff; position: static;"><span class="kLink" style="font-weight: 400; font-size: 17px; color: blue! important; border-bottom: blue 1px solid; font-family: 'Times New Roman', Georgia, Serif; position: relative; background-color: transparent;">students</span></span></a> who have been threatened with expulsion by a California college because of a prayer for a sick professor say a federal judge has refused the school&#8217;s efforts to have the case dismissed.</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s outrageous,&#8221; said Brad Dacus, president of <a href="http://www.pacificjustice.org/">the Pacific Justice Institute,</a> which is working on the case brought by students Kandy Kyriacou and Ojoma Omaga of the <a href="http://alameda.peralta.edu/homex.asp?Q=Homepage">College of Alameda</a> in Alameda, near Oakland.</p>
<p>&#8220;Since when does praying for a sick teacher to get well – with her consent – earn a suspension? This is not just a constitutional violation; it is a complete lack of common sense. These students were not looking for a fight, but since the school to this day insists that it can expel them if they pray again, we will have to resolve it in federal court,&#8221; he said.</p>
<p>The public-interest legal group said the decision by a San Francisco federal judge means the lawsuit will move forward.</p>
<p>The case was prompted by an incident just before Christmas in 2007 in which the students went to deliver a Christmas gift to a professor.</p>
<p>&#8220;Kandy found the instructor alone in her shared office,&#8221; according to Pacific Justice. &#8220;When the instructor indicated she was ill, Kandy offered to pray for her. The instructor bowed her head, and Kandy began to pray – until she was interrupted by another faculty member, Derek Piazza, who walked in and said, &#8216;You can&#8217;t be doing that in here!&#8217; Kandy quickly left and rejoined her friend and fellow student, Ojoma Omaga. Piazza followed Kandy outside and repeated his rebuke.&#8221;</p>
<p>While the students reported they were surprised by the teacher&#8217;s aggressive behavior, they were stunned when, days later, they both got letters notifying them of the college&#8217;s retroactive &#8220;intent to suspend&#8221; plan.</p>
<p>The letters, however, provided no facts on which to make such a threat, listing only vague references to &#8220;disruptive or insulting behavior&#8221; and &#8220;willful disobedience.&#8221;</p>
<p>School officials informed them during administrative hearings that Kyriacou was being disciplined for praying for the sick teacher. Omaga was not part of the prayer, and her offense apparently was that she was with Kyriacou a short time later.</p>
<p>The lawsuit was filed when the college refused to rescind the letters, leaving the students in peril of suspension or expulsion for any other offense, such as praying on campus. The decision from U.S. District Judge Susan Illston turned back college attempts to deny the students a hearing on their complaint.</p>
<p>&#8220;To this day, the College of Alameda has never provided a real explanation for its threats to expel these students,&#8221; said Steven N.H. Wood of the Walnut Creek firm of Bergquist, Wood and Anderson, which is working with Pacific Justice on the case.</p>
<p>&#8220;But it has disciplined them for non-disruptive, private prayer between consenting adults. We will not stand by and let a college trample these fundamental rights,&#8221; he said.</p>
<p>Said Dacus, &#8220;It is alarming that a publicly-funded college would seek to suspend and expel students for praying on campus, then dig in its heels to defend an untenable, unconstitutional position. We are encouraged that the federal court has given us the green light to pursue this case.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com">http://www.worldnetdaily.com</a></p>
<p>Well let&#8217;s hear it for a Judge (in Californina of all places) who has some common sense and cares about the Constitution.</p>
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		<title>In My Opinion &#8211; Christianity: Under Attack</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[For the last decade or so, Christian Values (belief in God, Marriage, Pro-Life, Prayer&#8230;.the list goes on) have been under constant attack from the left (ACLU, Atheists and others).  In case after case, any reference to &#8220;God&#8221; or prayer in school, Nativity scenes at Christmas, or the Ten Commandments in public places, has been slowly [...]]]></description>
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<p>For the last decade or so, Christian Values (belief in God, Marriage, Pro-Life, Prayer&#8230;.the list goes on) have been under constant attack from the left (ACLU, Atheists and others).  In case after case, any reference to &#8220;God&#8221; or prayer in school, Nativity scenes at Christmas, or the Ten Commandments in public places, has been slowly removed from everyday society.  It is an alarming trend and one in which I think Christians need to stand up to and say enough is enough.</p>
<blockquote><p>The founding fathers made it extremely clear as to the intent of the founding documents. The founding fathers guaranteed us “freedom <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>OF</strong></span> religion” and not “freedom from religion.”</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.newswithviews.com/guest_opinion/guest38.htm">Click here for full Op-ed</a></p>
<p>This striking quote is exactly right. We, as a new nation, ensured that those who come to our shores to start a new and better life, would not be persecuted for practicing the religion of their choice. They were not creating a system by which we would shield people from religion or God.</p>
<blockquote><p>This country was founded on Judeo-Christian principles; they have been a part of our heritage and culture since the Mayflower. Our third President, Thomas Jefferson, who many historical illiterates claim created the statements in the Federalist papers supporting a ‘separation of church and state,’ said the following: “God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are of the gift of God?&#8230;Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that his justice cannot sleep forever.”</p></blockquote>
<p>How true. Freedom, liberty, life, are God given and so shall they be protected. It is that belief, those convictions, which has made this nation strong, wealthy (in spirit, hope, and quality of life), and the model for all nations who want to have those same gifts.</p>
<blockquote><p>French historian and American observer Alexis de Tocqueville opined, “liberty cannot be established without morality, nor morality without faith.” Americans of all faiths must stand together with the understanding that no religion is safe when even one comes under attack. Josef Stalin disclosed an ominous plot many years ago: “America is like a healthy body and its resistance is threefold: its patriotism, its morality, and its spiritual life. If we can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within.” We’ve stood by as Christianity takes a beating in the town square. It’s high time we turn the tide. Our very liberty depends on it.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.intellectualconservative.com/article3227.html">Click here for full story</a></p>
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