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		<title>Rep. Fleming Says If Officials Vote For Health Care, They Should Be Required To Use It</title>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">John Fleming (R-LA) has created a resolution in the House, backed by several other sponsors, which stipulates any Congress member who votes to back a government &#8220;option&#8217; for health care, must use that same &#8220;option.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>ObamaCare Explained Through Legos</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 21:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s important to remember that Massachusetts had a Republican governor at the helm, who proposed the same type of system that Obama is proposing.  As much as those out there argue that the governor&#8217;s plan was taken to extremes by the next liberal administration &#8211; that still does not excuse the fact that a progressive politician [...]]]></description>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">It&#8217;s important to remember that Massachusetts had a Republican governor at the helm, who proposed the same type of system that Obama is proposing.  As much as those out there argue that the governor&#8217;s plan was taken to extremes by the next liberal administration &#8211; that still does not excuse the fact that a progressive politician (be it Republican or Democrat) set in motion a piece of legislation that harms more than it helps.  The same could be said for Bush&#8217;s &#8216;No Child Left Behind Act.&#8217;  It was still Bush&#8217;s idea and he pushed for the legislation, even after it was made into something unintended. </p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">A recent study released from Massachusetts showed that <a href="http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/states_general/massachusetts/massachusetts_26_consider_state_s_health_care_reform_a_success" target="_blank">only 26% felt that the state&#8217;s universal health care program worked</a>.  Those who actually were the poorest and previously did not have health care, liked the program the least.  Progressives want people to believe that billions of people are without health care, when that&#8217;s not the case, and the few million who don&#8217;t have it, are either here illegally, choose not to use one of the many programs in existence that offers health care, or are fine with going to the emergency rooms in hospitals. </p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Make no bones about it, Obama wants his way or it&#8217;s the highway.  He WON remember?  Get over it!  He doesn&#8217;t want to compromise on the health care debate, and he made that point abundantly clear today, even from overseas.  <a href="http://video.ap.org/?f=58118&amp;PID=AuZuwdM_9NUbBGTKDtBmSUzSixWLuLPI" target="_blank">He told the moderate Democrats in Congress that he does not want a compromise with Republicans</a>&#8230; He wants exactly what he proposed.  Smoke and mirrors legislation that looks as though the program is competitive, but would eventually make it too expensive for small and medium sized business to carry insurance for their employees.  The government cannot compete with the private sector &#8211; it always wins.</p>
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		<title>So What Has George Soros Been Up To Lately?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[George Soros, one of the wealthiest men in the world, as well as one of the largest hedge fund owners, is behind Obamacare. Health Care for America Now (HCAN), endorsed by President Obama as the coalition pushing his health-care (euthanasia) reform, is a project of billionaire British-agent speculator George Soros, his Tides Foundation, and the [...]]]></description>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">George Soros, one of the wealthiest men in the world, as well as one of the largest hedge fund owners, is <a href="http://blog.nj.com/njv_publicblog/2009/06/how_george_soros_created_obama.html" target="_blank">behind Obamacare</a>.</p>
<blockquote style="text-align: justify;"><p>Health Care for America Now (HCAN), endorsed by President Obama as the coalition pushing his health-care (euthanasia) reform, is a project of billionaire British-agent speculator George Soros, his Tides Foundation, and the Saul Alinsky counter-insurgency networks Soros used to ramp up the Obama Presidential candidacy.</p>
<p>Though labor unionists will come into Washington on June 25 to rally and lobby for the Obama &#8220;reform,&#8221; the HCAN organization sponsoring the D.C. events explicitly opposes the single-payer health-care plan favored by labor and by most Americans.</p>
<p>The group was established in July 2008 as an adjunct to the Soros operations supporting the Obama candidacy. At the outset, HCAN National Campaign Director Richard Kirsch wrote (July 16, 2008, Huffingtonpost) under the headline, &#8220;Why Not Single-Payer?&#8221; &#8220;I want to take a moment and address those of you who have been asking why Health Care for America Now is not focusing on creating a single-payer health insurance system.&#8221; Kirsch explains that he used to believe in that sort of thing, but came to realize it would scare people.</p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Here&#8217;s a little more about HCAN from an <a href="http://www.tylerpaper.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090625/OPINION0317/906259987" target="_blank">op-ed by Michelle Malkin</a>:</p>
<blockquote style="text-align: justify;"><p>HCAN has a $40 million budget, with $10 million pitched in by The Atlantic Philanthropies — a Bermuda-based organization fronted by Soros acolyte Gara LaMarche. Also in the money mix: notorious Democratic donors Herb and Marion Sandler, the left-wing moguls who made billions selling subprime mortgages and helped Soros fund his vast network of left-wing activist satellites. By their side is billionaire Peter Lewis of Progressive Insurance, whose &#8220;Progressive Future&#8221; youth group has dispatched clueless volunteers armed with clip-boards and literature bashing Rush Limbaugh and Fox News to scare up support for Obamacare.</p>
<p>And two more left-wing heavyweights joining the HCAN parade: the corruption-plagued SEIU (which has battled numerous embezzlement scandals among its chapters across the country while crusading for consumer and patients’ rights) and Obama’s old chums at fraud-riddled ACORN, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now.</p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Oh the tangled web we weave.  The tentacles of all the progressive organizations are intertwined as much as the sub-prime market was woven throughout the stock market.  These progressive groups with their new super majority finally feel as though they can pass through their agenda.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">It doesn&#8217;t cease to amaze me how connected all of these groups are.  This begs the question &#8211; who is the head of the snake?  Is it George Soros?  There was a lot of speculation and perhaps a lot of fact, of his attempting to bring down the United Kingdom.  Many of these radical left wing groups are funded and run by the same individuals.  I hope that somebody can someday figure out the exact tree/web/links in the chain, and make a movie out of it.  It could be called The Twilight Zone &#8211; never mind that movie already exists&#8230; but perhaps something similar!</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">George Soros is also involved in another scheme that has not received much attention at all.  <a href="http://www.lonsberry.com/writings.cfm?go=4" target="_blank">He has received over $300K of taxpayer dollars to open a restaurant</a> in a very run-down, poor area of New York where, on average, people only make about $30K per year and pay their taxes like law-abiding citizens.  Mind you, this man made millions, if not billions, last year during the collapse so please keep that in mind as you read about his ties to progressive groups, his encouragement for government run health care and cap &amp; trade, etc.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">George Soros is opening up another Dinosaur Bar-B-Que in the old rust belt of up-state New York; Troy.  His company, Soros Strategic Partners, owns over 70% of the famous rib joint among other things like moveon.org, factcheck.org, hedge funds, not to mention he is also the single largest contributor to the DNC.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">When Soros found the right building to create an additional franchise, the building came with a gift of approximately $218K of back taxes.  Normally, the back taxes on a building would be tacked on to the purchase price of the property but, because it&#8217;s Soros and as we&#8217;ve seen with ACORN and his other groups, he can just bully his way into welfare for the rich and additional perks that men like him could afford on their own.</p>
<blockquote style="text-align: justify;"><p>Further, Dinosaur Bar-B-Que is getting a five-year deferment on the property tax that improvements on its property would have otherwise obligated it to. That five-year lag will continue for 20 years.</p>
<p>Meaning that Dinosaur Bar-B-Que will spend the next two decades paying less than its fair share of property taxes – while the locally owned businesses against which it competes will have to pay their full obligation.</p>
<p>Dinosaur Bar-B-Que is also being given exemption from $60,000 in sales tax for materials used to improve its building, and the $53,000 fee for recording its mortgage is being waived.</p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align: justify;">These are just further examples of progressive policies and individuals becoming cancers on our society.</p>
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		<title>Latest Quinnipiac Poll on Health Care Doesn&#8217;t Add Up</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Listening to CSPAN on my way into work this morning, I had to push my eyes back into place, because the lack of common sense from Americans who took this poll disturbed me. The head of the polling institute at Quinnipiac was explaining the results this morning and taking questions at the National Press Club.  [...]]]></description>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">Listening to CSPAN on my way into work this morning, I had to push my eyes back into place, because the lack of common sense from Americans who took this poll disturbed me.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">The head of the polling institute at <a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=washingtonstory&amp;sid=awNeGQfmE378" target="_blank">Quinnipiac was explaining the results this morning and taking questions at the National Press Club</a>.  He discussed that nearly 69% wanted a government health care system competing with private health care.  However, 26% opposed a government-run program.  Therefore, it seems to me that people don&#8217;t understand that the government, when it competes with anything, wins.  My jaw dropped in that instant.  How can you be skeptical of a government run (universal) program, but want the government to compete with private industry? </p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">On top of the 26% who agreed with a universal program (no private industry) only 53% said they would want to use a government option should one exist.  Many want to keep their own private insurance!  Yet again, there is no logic in how people are answering this poll.  I am utterly dumb-founded!  85% of those who responded and already had private insurance, said they were satisfied with what they already had&#8230;</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">There was also a lot of confusion regarding the responses to pay for health care.  Many were willing to have the rich and corporations pay more for their health care and only 49% said they would be willing to pay more for insurance to cover costs for others. 72% of those who said they would pay a little more, would only pay up to $500 more.  That&#8217;s about the cost of a slice of pizza/week &#8211; how will that pay for a program that will cost upwards of over $1 trillion?  The answer: It Won&#8217;t!</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">The breakout of demographics who wanted government health care and who would pay more comes as no surprise.  Democrats overwhelmingly would pay more, but as discussed above were only willing to pay out of their own pocket; up to $500 extra, but were more than willing to have others cover for them.  Over 70% of blacks want a government-run health care program, approx. 53% of Hispanics want one and White voters were against the program.  Young individuals, 18-34, were also more willing to pay higher taxes for a govt. run program&#8230; I know that most in this age bracket, especially until they begin having families, do not realize the true consequences of high taxes or government control. </p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">This poll also looked at 3 classes of voters; Republicans, Independents, and Democrats.  Republicans and Democrats left no surprises.  Independents did show that depending on how health care goes, Obama could lose a lot of his independent support, which helped him over that 50% hurdle last election.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">63% of Americans disagree with taxing health care benefits, which the White House is considering.  Health care benefits do not get taxed currently.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">I would have enjoyed seeing a little more information as to the respondents of this poll.  I would especially like to see the tax brackets that each respondent falls into and the range of taxes they pay annually, for example.  I find that these polls leave out important variables that could really put the entire sentiment of the country into a better perspective.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">I&#8217;m still waiting to get polled&#8230; tick tock.</p>
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		<title>Health-Care Catch:  Unions and Congress are Exempt</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just when you thought cronyism couldn&#8217;t stoop any lower, Congress sticks a clause into the health-care bill that will allow unions and their members to remain tax exempt from the proposed public Obamacare legislation.  And who would have thunk it?  Unions are majority Democrat&#8230; To add insult to injury Congress, with their lovely perks, and [...]]]></description>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">Just when you thought cronyism couldn&#8217;t stoop any lower, Congress sticks a clause into the health-care bill that <a href="http://yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2009/06/unions-exempt-from-obama-care-taxes-why.html" target="_blank">will allow unions and their members to remain tax exempt from the proposed public Obamacare legislation</a>.  And who would have thunk it?  Unions are majority Democrat&#8230;</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">To add insult to injury Congress, with their lovely perks, and inside the beltway lifestyle, would obviously keep their benefits and would not be required to participate in the plan.  If Congress, the very people who are proposing this rubbish, are unwilling to use it themselves, that should set off alarms for every American.</p>
<blockquote style="text-align: justify;"><p>Union workers enjoy some of the most extensive and costliest health benefits, and union officials complained their members would be unfairly burdened by a health care tax because their contracts cannot be changed quickly enough to avoid it.</p>
<p>Union members also represent one of the biggest and most powerful Democratic constituencies and their support of any health care reform proposal is viewed as essential to getting a bill passed in Congress.</p>
<p>Baucus has proposed the tax threshold on health care benefits be set higher than the cost of policies available to federal employees and he has proposed exempting until 2013 those plans negotiated as part of union contracts.</p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Isn&#8217;t there some type of law that states all men and women are created equal?  Doesn&#8217;t singling out one or two groups go against that entirely?</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">If Obamacare is passed, this will be used as a backdoor method for Card Check because more will be enticed to join unions, where they still have a choice of their own health-care - &#8221;mark my words!&#8221;</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Oh, and next time I hear somebody bring up crony capitalism, I&#8217;ll be sure to wave several examples of &#8220;crony Capitol Hillism&#8221; in their face to make my point that corruption and greed go hand in hand and it&#8217;s no different whether you are in DC or NYC.</p>
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