Tiller’s Killer; The Demonization of the Pro-Life Movement Begins (Oh the Hypocrisy)
Late Sunday morning at a church service in Wichita, Kansas, Dr. George Tiller, who was under investigation and brought up on charges for late-term abortions, the most conducted nationwide by any doctor, was gunned down by another man.
Dr. Tiller was shot and killed on Sunday by the man currently in custody, Scott Roeder, a 51-year-old.
Tiller’s Women’s Health Care Services clinic is one of just three in the nation where abortions are performed after the 21st week of pregnancy. The clinic was heavily fortified and Tiller often traveled with a bodyguard, but Stolz said there was no indication of security at the church Sunday.
Anti-abortion groups denounced the shooting and stressed that they support only nonviolent protest. The movement’s leaders fear the killing could create a backlash just as they are scrutinizing U.S. Supreme Court nominee Sonia Sotomayor, whose views on abortion rights are not publicly known.
“We are shocked at this morning’s disturbing news that Mr. Tiller was gunned down,” Troy Newman, Operation Rescue’s president, said in a statement. “Operation Rescue has worked for years through peaceful, legal means, and through the proper channels to see him brought to justice. We denounce vigilantism and the cowardly act that took place this morning.”
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Tiller remained prominent in the news, in part because of an investigation begun by former Kansas Attorney General Phill Kline, an abortion opponent. (Tiller also had suspicious ties and money attributed to Kathleen Sebelius – Obama’s HHS cabinet member).
Prosecutors had alleged that Tiller had gotten second opinions from a doctor who was essentially an employee of his, not independent as state law requires. A jury in March acquitted Tiller of all 19 misdemeanor counts.
“I am stunned by this lawless and violent act, which must be condemned and should be met with the full force of law,” Kline said in a statement. “We join in lifting prayer that God’s grace and presence rest with Dr. Tiller’s family and friends.”
So what do we know about Roeder? (We don’t know much)
There are contradicting reports of what this man was involved in and what he supported and there is also a very suspicious comment on a youtube clip from 3 weeks ago that warned about Scott Roeder – calling him a con-man so people need to stop jumping to conclusions first and foremost.
Here is an article that states he is not part of the pro-life movement, but rather part of fringe non-government, militia groups.
Here is an article that gives accounts by his friends that he was in fact anti-abortion.
Then there is the youtube clip here, with the following comment (3 weeks ago page 5 for comments):
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This was an unfortunate event and we can already assume that the liberals and the media will take this to the nth degree to demonize the pro-life movement which has been gaining speed and actually showed great improvement as far as where America falls on the issue as recently as last month when 51% agreed with pro-life causes. I think Governor Palin sums it up with her statement that she issued today:
“I feel sorrow for the Tiller family. I respect the sanctity of life and the tragedy that took place today in Kansas clearly violates respect for life. This murder also damages the positive message of life, for the unborn, and for those living. Ask yourself, ‘What will those who have not yet decided personally where they stand on this issue take away from today’s event in Kansas?’
Regardless of my strong objection to Dr. Tiller’s abortion practices, violence is never an answer in advancing the pro-life message.”
However, the liberals are blaming, as usual, Rush, Bill O’Reilly, Ann Coulter, among other prominent conservatives (I’m sure Sarah Palin will be blamed as well – they love bashing a genuine person). Here are some comments being made by the leftists already:
This man hates women unless he controls them.
That pretty much is standard operating procedure for a lot of anti abortionists. Women are great as long as they are under their control.
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Bill O’Reilly should be arrested for conspiracy to commit murder.
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I am surprised O’Reilly has not been sued for defamation for this. That’s the minimum he should be held to. Just because he did not come right out for the assination of Dr. Tiller, he cannot escape his own significant contribution to his death.
He has blood on his OWN hands now. As well as all of those who have provided comfort and refuge to the Army of God and the rest of the wingnut American Taliban. They are the worst kind of fascists.
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Limbaugh, Coulter, Hannity, O’Reilly, Savage, Beck–they all preach hatred. Hatred is their game. Inferior people have to have someone to look down upon. Racism is more often found among frustrated people who try to elevate themselves by comparing themselves with those who have less, or who are “just different” (skin color, for example).
It all comes out finally, whether it is the mass killings on a campus, or an abortion doctor. These hate mongers bear much of the responsibility for what is going on. Why they are allowed to use the publicly owned airwaves to spread their venom is hard to understand.
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So my question to Ann Coulter is: Did George Tiller have “a procedure performed on him with a rifle”? Did he simply get his just desserts?
If the murderer was not a follower of Coulter’s, he certainly acted from the sort of hateful sentiment she disseminates in popular and right-wing media.
So the moonbats, as usual, attack not the gunman, but those on the outskirts as the conspirators or the probable cause of this murder. I hate the victim mentality and believe all people need to take responsibility for their own actions – this was one lone gunman/loon who murdered somebody – not an entire movement or political ideology.
Based on the above, there is a lot of contradicting evidence upon who Scott Roeder really is and also an interesting youtube comment from 3 weeks ago which seemed to warn people of this guy!? Um… there is something incredibly suspicious here and I think that there needs to be more investigation first, before all the tin-foil hats are donned by the liberals to come up with some kooky conspiracy theories.
The hypocrisy in all of this is that I could just as easily demonize the entire Left for the environmental activist bombings that took place in the 90′s which killed people, or I could say that Obama, Clinton, Biden, CNN, NBC, etc. are responsible for illegal immigrants murdering American citizens because they are for amnesty and won’t disclose these murders in public or call the individuals illegals – but technically the accountability should always be on the person who committed the crime(s).
There is fringe on both sides of the aisle and anyone who believes in ideological purity is not somebody that I feel is all that sane. I believe strongly in the platforms and principles of the right and will always preach those values as well as call out the other side. That’s not to say that I can’t see good on the Left time to time or also admit when those on the Right were wrong.
This was a tragic event and it’s something that we all need to think long and hard about and stop demonizing one another over the crazy actions of a lone gunman. It’s too bad that Dr. Tiller’s life had to end the way it did, there is nothing to be gained from taking someone’s life in cold blood, whether you agreed with the Dr. or not (two wrongs don’t make a right). This hurts the pro-life movement, not because they agreed, in fact, it is just the opposite; all pro-life groups that are main stream have condemned Scott Roeder’s acts, but the media and the left will use this incident as a means to an end and will use one person to define the “whole.” It’s incredibly disingenuous and incredibly hypocritical to do so.
Alan Keyes and 20 Other Protesters Arrested at Notre Dame
Pro-life protesters rallied at the Notre Dame campus for Obama’s upcoming commencement speech to show their disagreement with the Catholic university’s decision allowing Barack Obama, the most radical pro-abortion politician to date, to speak at their institution.
Former Illinois U.S. Senate candidate Alan Keyes and 21 other protesters were arrested this morning when they refused to leave the Notre Dame campus during a protest of President Obama’s upcoming commencement address there, authorities said.
Keyes and the others were arrested on trespassing charges when they refused to leave campus, a university spokesman said. All 22 were being held in the St. Joseph County Jail on misdemeanor criminal trespass charges, in lieu of $250 bond each, said St. Joseph County Sheriff’s Sgt. Bill Redman.
Just one question: If there were 20 some odd people marching in support of Obama’s speech, would they have also received fines for trespassing? One would hope it would go both ways…/yea right!
Former US Ambassador to the Vatican Says “No” to Notre Dame and Obama
Pro-Life Harvard Law professor (I didn’t know they had those at Harvard!), Ann Glendon, was to appear at Notre Dame to accept the Laetare Medal for recognition of outstanding service to the Roman Catholic church and society. She was to give a speech upon receiving the medal, but Obama’s invitation to speak at the school on the same day seemed to be the straw that broke the camel’s back and Ann Glendon has declined.
Here is her letter:
April 27, 2009
The Rev. John I. Jenkins, C.S.C.
President
University of Notre DameDear Father Jenkins,
When you informed me in December 2008 that I had been selected to receive Notre Dame’s Laetare Medal, I was profoundly moved. I treasure the memory of receiving an honorary degree from Notre Dame in 1996, and I have always felt honored that the commencement speech I gave that year was included in the anthology of Notre Dame’s most memorable commencement speeches. So I immediately began working on an acceptance speech that I hoped would be worthy of the occasion, of the honor of the medal, and of your students and faculty.
Last month, when you called to tell me that the commencement speech was to be given by President Obama, I mentioned to you that I would have to rewrite my speech. Over the ensuing weeks, the task that once seemed so delightful has been complicated by a number of factors.
First, as a longtime consultant to the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, I could not help but be dismayed by the news that Notre Dame also planned to award the president an honorary degree. This, as you must know, was in disregard of the U.S. bishops’ express request of 2004 that Catholic institutions “should not honor those who act in defiance of our fundamental moral principles” and that such persons “should not be given awards, honors or platforms which would suggest support for their actions.” That request, which in no way seeks to control or interfere with an institution’s freedom to invite and engage in serious debate with whomever it wishes, seems to me so reasonable that I am at a loss to understand why a Catholic university should disrespect it.
Then I learned that “talking points” issued by Notre Dame in response to widespread criticism of its decision included two statements implying that my acceptance speech would somehow balance the event:
• “President Obama won’t be doing all the talking. Mary Ann Glendon, the former U.S. ambassador to the Vatican, will be speaking as the recipient of the Laetare Medal.”
• “We think having the president come to Notre Dame, see our graduates, meet our leaders, and hear a talk from Mary Ann Glendon is a good thing for the president and for the causes we care about.”
A commencement, however, is supposed to be a joyous day for the graduates and their families. It is not the right place, nor is a brief acceptance speech the right vehicle, for engagement with the very serious problems raised by Notre Dame’s decision—in disregard of the settled position of the U.S. bishops—to honor a prominent and uncompromising opponent of the Church’s position on issues involving fundamental principles of justice.
Finally, with recent news reports that other Catholic schools are similarly choosing to disregard the bishops’ guidelines, I am concerned that Notre Dame’s example could have an unfortunate ripple effect.
It is with great sadness, therefore, that I have concluded that I cannot accept the Laetare Medal or participate in the May 17 graduation ceremony.
In order to avoid the inevitable speculation about the reasons for my decision, I will release this letter to the press, but I do not plan to make any further comment on the matter at this time.
Yours Very Truly,
Mary Ann Glendon
Ann, I wouldn’t really appreciate being used as a pawn or an excuse for Notre Dame to go against its doctrines and the oath it took on behalf of the Church. I would back out if I also felt like I was being used without my consent. I also think that it is very valiant of Ann to stand on principle and not back down from her convictions.
Ann Glendon served as US Ambassador to the Vatican from 2007 to 2009.
Liberals have been protesting speakers for a very long time so I don’t want to hear anything from them when it comes to double standards (examples such as Tancredo, Rick Warren, Ann Coulter, Karl Rove, and so on and so forth).
Governor Sarah Palin Speaks at Pro-Life Rally in Evansville, IN and at Down Syndrome Breakfast (SMILE)
And Look! No Telemprompter!
Part 1: Introduction by Michael Steele
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Pictures from the S.M.I.L.E Breakfast:
Caroline Kennedy Denied by Vatican!
If this isn’t sweet justice, then I don’t know what is – but I sure do love Happy Endings!
The Vatican has blocked the appointment of Caroline Kennedy as US ambassador, according to reports.
Vatican sources told Il Giornale that their support for abortion disqualified Ms Kennedy and other Roman Catholics President Barack Obama had been seeking to appoint.
Mr Obama was reportedly seeking to reward John F Kennedy’s daughter, who publicly gave her support to his election bid. She had been poised to replace Hillary Clinton as New York senator, but dropped out amid criticism that she lacked enough experience for the job.
I guess the Pope, like you know, like figured out, that like Caroline, and like the rest of you know, the Kennedy clan, was like you know, anything but like pro-life or like remotely Catholic you know.
The Italian paper said that the Vatican strongly disapproved of Mr Obama’s support for abortion and stem cell research. The impasse over the ambassadorial appointment threatens to cloud his meeting with the Pope during a G8 summit in Itay in July.
Ms Kennedy, 53, has said that she supports abortion. Raymond Flynn, a former US ambassador to the Vatican, said earlier this week that Ms Kennedy would be a poor choice.
“It’s imperative, it’s essential that the person who represents us to the Holy See be a person who has pro-life values. I hope the President doesn’t make that mistake,” he told the Boston Herald. “She said she was pro-choice. I don’t assume she’s going to change that, which is problematic.”
The White House refused to comment.
Good for the Pope and the Catholic Church. You may not agree with the pro-life stance, but a religion shouldn’t have to kowtow to a political agenda or ideology. As I learned in International Business in undergrad – if you are conducting business or negotiating with a business overseas you should know their culture and respect it – same goes for the Catholic Church.
I’m not sure if Obama and his Administration are just that incompetent or just deliberately doing this to demean the Catholic religion. I tend to lean towards the latter – which is why I’m glad the Pope is holding his own.
Since this report is coming out of the U.K. I’m curious to know whether or not the rest of the MSM will report on this, besides Fox News.
