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		<title>Tiller&#8217;s Killer; The Demonization of the Pro-Life Movement Begins (Oh the Hypocrisy)</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 17:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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Late Sunday morning at a church service in Wichita, Kansas, Dr. George Tiller, who was under investigation and brought up on charges for late-term abortions, the most conducted nationwide by any doctor, was gunned down by another man.
Dr. Tiller was shot and killed on Sunday by the man currently in custody, Scott Roeder, a 51-year-old.
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<p style="text-align: justify;">Late Sunday morning at a church service in Wichita, Kansas, Dr. George Tiller, who was under investigation and brought up on charges for late-term abortions, the most conducted nationwide by any doctor, was <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090531/ap_on_re_us/us_tiller_shooting" target="_blank">gunned down by another man</a>.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Dr. Tiller was shot and killed on Sunday by the man currently in custody, Scott Roeder, a 51-year-old.</p>
<blockquote style="text-align: justify;"><p>Tiller&#8217;s Women&#8217;s Health Care Services clinic is one of just three in the nation where abortions are performed after the 21st week of pregnancy. The clinic was heavily fortified and Tiller often traveled with a bodyguard, but Stolz said there was no indication of security at the church Sunday.</p>
<p>Anti-abortion groups denounced the shooting and stressed that they support only nonviolent protest. The movement&#8217;s leaders fear the killing could create a backlash just as they are scrutinizing U.S. Supreme Court nominee Sonia Sotomayor, whose views on abortion rights are not publicly known.</p>
<p>&#8220;We are shocked at this morning&#8217;s disturbing news that Mr. Tiller was gunned down,&#8221; Troy Newman, Operation Rescue&#8217;s president, said in a statement. &#8220;Operation Rescue has worked for years through peaceful, legal means, and through the proper channels to see him brought to justice. We denounce vigilantism and the cowardly act that took place this morning.&#8221;</p>
<p>[...]</p>
<p>Tiller remained prominent in the news, in part because of an investigation begun by former Kansas Attorney General Phill Kline, an abortion opponent.  (Tiller also had suspicious ties and money attributed to Kathleen Sebelius &#8211; Obama&#8217;s HHS cabinet member).</p>
<p>Prosecutors had alleged that Tiller had gotten second opinions from a doctor who was essentially an employee of his, not independent as state law requires. A jury in March acquitted Tiller of all 19 misdemeanor counts.</p>
<p>&#8220;I am stunned by this lawless and violent act, which must be condemned and should be met with the full force of law,&#8221; Kline said in a statement. &#8220;We join in lifting prayer that God&#8217;s grace and presence rest with Dr. Tiller&#8217;s family and friends.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align: justify;">So what do we know about Roeder?  (We don&#8217;t know much)</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">There are contradicting reports of what this man was involved in and what he supported and there is also a very suspicious comment on a youtube clip from 3 weeks ago that warned about Scott Roeder &#8211; calling him a con-man so people need to stop jumping to conclusions first and foremost.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><a href="http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2009/05/31/how-long-will-it-take-media-tag-tiller-murderer-not-part-prolife-movemen" target="_blank">Here</a> is an article that states he is not part of the pro-life movement, but rather part of fringe non-government, militia groups.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><a href="http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics/AP/story/1075392.html" target="_blank">Here</a> is an article that gives accounts by his friends that he was in fact anti-abortion.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Then there is the youtube clip <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UStyFKiUoDo" target="_blank">here</a>, with the following comment (3 weeks ago page 5 for comments):</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">This was an unfortunate event and we can already assume that the liberals and the media will take this to the nth degree to demonize the pro-life movement which has been gaining speed and actually showed great improvement as far as where America falls on the issue as recently as last month when 51% agreed with pro-life causes.  I think Governor Palin sums it up with her statement that she issued today:</p>
<blockquote style="text-align: justify;"><p>&#8220;I feel sorrow for the Tiller family. I respect the sanctity of life and the tragedy that took place today in Kansas clearly violates respect for life. This murder also damages the positive message of life, for the unborn, and for those living. Ask yourself, &#8216;What will those who have not yet decided personally where they stand on this issue take away from today&#8217;s event in Kansas?&#8217;</p>
<p>Regardless of my strong objection to Dr. Tiller&#8217;s abortion practices, violence is never an answer in advancing the pro-life message.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align: justify;">However, the liberals are blaming, as usual, Rush, <a href="http://letters.salon.com/news/feature/2009/05/31/tiller/view/?show=all" target="_blank">Bill O&#8217;Reilly</a>, <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/interstitial.php?req=%2Fadele-stan%2Ftiller-murder-ann-coulter_b_209525.html" target="_blank">Ann Coulter</a>, among other prominent conservatives (I&#8217;m sure Sarah Palin will be blamed as well &#8211; they love bashing a genuine person).  Here are some comments being made by the leftists already:</p>
<blockquote style="text-align: justify;"><p>This man hates women unless he controls them.</p>
<p>That pretty much is standard operating procedure for a lot of anti abortionists. Women are great as long as they are under their control.</p>
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<p>Bill O&#8217;Reilly should be arrested for conspiracy to commit murder.</p>
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<p>I am surprised O&#8217;Reilly has not been sued for defamation for this. That&#8217;s the minimum he should be held to. Just because he did not come right out for the assination of Dr. Tiller, he cannot escape his own significant contribution to his death.</p>
<p>He has blood on his OWN hands now. As well as all of those who have provided comfort and refuge to the Army of God and the rest of the wingnut American Taliban. They are the worst kind of fascists.</p>
<p>[...]</p>
<p>Limbaugh, Coulter, Hannity, O&#8217;Reilly, Savage, Beck&#8211;they all preach hatred. Hatred is their game. Inferior people have to have someone to look down upon. Racism is more often found among frustrated people who try to elevate themselves by comparing themselves with those who have less, or who are &#8220;just different&#8221; (skin color, for example).</p>
<p>It all comes out finally, whether it is the mass killings on a campus, or an abortion doctor. These hate mongers bear much of the responsibility for what is going on. Why they are allowed to use the publicly owned airwaves to spread their venom is hard to understand.</p>
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<p>So my question to Ann Coulter is: Did George Tiller have &#8220;a procedure performed on him with a rifle&#8221;? Did he simply get his just desserts?</p>
<p>If the murderer was not a follower of Coulter&#8217;s, he certainly acted from the sort of hateful sentiment she disseminates in popular and right-wing media.</p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align: justify;">So the moonbats, as usual, attack not the gunman, but those on the outskirts as the conspirators or the probable cause of this murder.  I hate the victim mentality and believe all people need to take responsibility for their own actions &#8211; this was one lone gunman/loon who murdered somebody &#8211; not an entire movement or political ideology.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Based on the above, there is a lot of contradicting evidence upon who Scott Roeder really is and also an interesting youtube comment from 3 weeks ago which seemed to warn people of this guy!?  Um&#8230; there is something incredibly suspicious here and I think that there needs to be more investigation first, before all the tin-foil hats are donned by the liberals to come up with some kooky conspiracy theories.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">The hypocrisy in all of this is that I could just as easily demonize the entire Left for the environmental activist bombings that took place in the 90&#8217;s which killed people, or I could say that Obama, Clinton, Biden, CNN, NBC, etc. are responsible for illegal immigrants murdering American citizens because they are for amnesty and won&#8217;t disclose these murders in public or call the individuals illegals &#8211; but technically the accountability should always be on the person who committed the crime(s).</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">There is fringe on both sides of the aisle and anyone who believes in ideological purity is not somebody that I feel is all that sane.  I believe strongly in the platforms and principles of the right and will always preach those values as well as call out the other side.  That&#8217;s not to say that I can&#8217;t see good on the Left time to time or also admit when those on the Right were wrong.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">This was a tragic event and it&#8217;s something that we all need to think long and hard about and stop demonizing one another over the crazy actions of a lone gunman.  It&#8217;s too bad that Dr. Tiller&#8217;s life had to end the way it did, there is nothing to be gained from taking someone&#8217;s life in cold blood, whether you agreed with the Dr. or not (two wrongs don&#8217;t make a right).  This hurts the pro-life movement, not because they agreed, in fact, it is just the opposite; all pro-life groups that are main stream have condemned Scott Roeder&#8217;s acts, but the media and the left will use this incident as a means to an end and will use one person to define the &#8220;whole.&#8221;  It&#8217;s incredibly disingenuous and incredibly hypocritical to do so.</p>
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		<title>Democrats Switch From Operation Rush to Operation Palin</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>CrabbyCon</dc:creator>
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Rule #4 in Alinsky&#8217;s Rules for Radicals says &#8220;pick the target and personalize it.&#8221;
Rush just isn&#8217;t getting the job done anymore for the democrats&#8230; their new personal target is&#8230;drum roll please&#8230;.
SARAH PALIN
James Carville, the long time progressive liberal strategist for the DNC has the following to say:
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<p>Rule #4 in Alinsky&#8217;s Rules for Radicals says &#8220;pick the target and personalize it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Rush just isn&#8217;t getting the job done anymore for the democrats&#8230; their new personal target is&#8230;drum roll please&#8230;.</p>
<p><strong>SARAH PALIN</strong></p>
<p>James Carville, the long time progressive liberal strategist for the DNC has the following to say:</p>
<blockquote><p>“Her name conjures up all kinds of reactions in people’s minds,” Carville told me, adding that her association with the campaign will be used to portray the GOP as hidebound and to alienate moderates.</p>
<p>“She’s an uncomfortable figure for a lot of Republicans,” Carville says. “They want to move beyond her. We like her.”</p>
<p>“Luckily, she seems to present us with an opportunity every few days,” added a senior Dem strategist. “You could say it’s a turkey shoot.”…</p>
<p>Such efforts are aimed at the Dem base. But House Dem strategists hope she can be used to damage the GOP’s image with swing constituencies in the 2010 elections. “When she was campaigning, she rubbed suburban and independent women the wrong way,” one House Dem strategist says. “They are generally very moderate, and she’s a reminder of the extremism of the party and other aspects of it they dislike.”</p></blockquote>
<p><span id="more-1272"></span>The problem I see with his statements is that Palin is not an extremist, she never has been. If any of these moderate or suburban independent women actually read her record they would find that she is a federalist or a constitutionalist, not a religious extremist.  She holds socially conservative beliefs, herself, but does not force those on other people and that is obvious if people would just open their eyes and get beyond their own personal insecurities and bigotry for those who may be different from them. </p>
<p>The democrats were handing out <a href="http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0309/Palin_with_Bush_and_Limbaugh_on_Democrats_mail.html?showall" target="_blank">fliers</a> for Scott Murphy for the special election being held today up in New York vs. Jim Tedisco. </p>
<p>This same strategy used on Rush Limbaugh has backed fired on the democrats and has actually boosted his ratings.  For example, I was young and somewhat influenced by the media from time-to-time, so I was still under the false assumption that Rush was more of an extremist, until I heard him speak at CPAC personally.  I am now a huge fan!</p>
<p>The reasoning of the democrats for their defeat in the Rush war and their reasoning of why they feel it would work better against Sarah Palin is the following:</p>
<blockquote><p>(a) Rush has the time, platform, and incentive to fight daily skirmishes with Democrats while Palindoesn’t and (b) don’t forget that boosting Rush’s profile was the point of the White House’s strategy, on the theory that the public’s antipathy to him would bleed over to the GOP. Surely Emanuel et al. knew that a media war would increase Limbaugh’s ratings; they simply calculated that the political benefit of rebranding Republicans as Team Rush outweighed the cost of making his megaphone bigger. Maybe they’re wrong about that, maybe they’re not, but evidently they’re willing to double down and try the same strategy out on Palin.</p></blockquote>
<p>I think this will also backfire for the Democrats.  I think that normal people will become incredibly tired of seeing all the negativity fired at this woman when she is no longer on the national scene and is simply trying to do her job as Governor up in Alaska.  There becomes a time when people just pick up on the fact that this was all a ploy in the first place &#8211; if they are continuing to go after her &#8211; she must have been effective and surely was a threat, otherwise they would just let this go. </p>
<p>Meanwhile, it will also help her nationally, if and when Obama does fail and falls from grace, which he is doing on a daily basis.  People have already started to realize how in the tank the media has been for Obama and how they treated Sarah Palin- many are questioning and doubting their initial opinions of the woman.  Some won&#8217;t due to pride and ego, but others have been willing to concede they may have been wrong and are willing to take another look.  We already know that a poll was taken after the election and the majority who responded agreed that she was not given a fair shake by the MSM.  Imagine what they will think when Obama flounders and they continue to bash this woman when she has done nothing. </p>
<p>Keep it up Dems &#8211; because this will ensure this woman will be thrust into the White House in 2012!</p>
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