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		<title>Dueling Speeches and Cheney&#8217;s Take Down</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 17:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>Obama = Childish, immature, inexperienced ideologue using hollow rhetoric.</p>
<p>Cheney = Mature, responsible, pragmatic, experienced statesman using layman&#8217;s terms for the average American public.</p>
<p>Cheney won hands down.</p>
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		<title>Jihad is Real and It&#8217;s Still in New York</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 15:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>CrabbyCon</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I haven&#8217;t heard much on the recent arrest and thwarting of a terror plot in New York City aimed at decimating Jewish Synagogues and community centers, but it took place earlier this week.  Nary a peep or a whimper from the anti-American mainstream media, because heaven forbid we let the American people know that there [...]]]></description>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">I haven&#8217;t heard much on the recent arrest and <a href="http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/FBI-Bust-Plot-Foiled.html" target="_blank">thwarting of a terror plot in New York City</a> aimed at decimating Jewish Synagogues and community centers, but it took place earlier this week.  Nary a peep or a whimper from the anti-American mainstream media, because heaven forbid we let the American people know that there is still a major islamo-fascist threat even on our own soil.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">The media elite should be ashamed of themselves, but they don&#8217;t want anyone to really find out how politically biased they are, so they would rather put people&#8217;s lives in danger than let them know the truth;  that national security is not a joke and it&#8217;s quite necessary for our future survival.</p>
<blockquote style="text-align: justify;"><p>Four New York men were arrested Wednesday in connection with an alleged plot to blow up area Jewish centers and military targets. The plot, however, was foiled by undercover agents.</p>
<p>Raids by the FBI-NYPD Joint Terrorist Task Force in the Bronx captured the suspected ringleader and three followers in what law enforcement sources are calling a homegrown terrorist plot.</p>
<p>Agents and police watched Wednesday night as the suspects allegedly planted what they thought were bombs outside two Jewish community centers in Riverdale, a Bronx, New York neighborhood. In one case the suspected terrorists planted a bomb inside a parked car.  However, officials said the suspects were actually using fake explosives given to them in an earlier sting operation to make sure they didn&#8217;t get their hands on real bombs.</p>
<p>&#8220;The bombs had been made by the FBI technicians, they were totally inert, no one was ever at risk,&#8221; Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly said.</p>
<p>The FBI said the Muslim suspects were angry and full of hate for America.</p>
<p>&#8220;Hatred of the West. The leader of the group, James Cromitie was concerned about deaths at the hands of the U.S. military in Afghanistan,&#8221; and also expressed anti-Jewish sentiment, Joseph Demarest the head of the New York FBI said.</p>
<p>According to the criminal complaint, Cromitie said &#8220;I hate those f-ing Jewish bastards.&#8221; He bragged that it would be a &#8220;piece of cake&#8221; to bomb a Jewish Center in Riverdale, according to the complaint.</p>
<p>Cromitie was the first to approach the informant, authorities said.  He told the informant he has ties to the terrorist group Jaish-e-Mohammad.  Authorities said Cromitie had 27 past arrests and had recently been working at a nation-wide discount retailer, authorities said.</p>
<p>Several of the suspects have previously been arrested on drug charges and may have converted to Islam in prison, authorities said.</p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Another shining example of the religion of peace.  And what was it that Obama and his liberal buddies in congress said about moving the Gitmo Muslims into prisons? It wouldn&#8217;t cause any problems?  Prisons have become a breeding ground for islamo-fascism&#8230;</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><a href="http://michellemalkin.com/2009/05/22/the-jihadi-virus-in-our-jails/" target="_blank">MM has more info and data</a> regarding this recent terror threat and other data regarding our prisons and Radical Islam.</p>
<blockquote style="text-align: justify;"><p>After a year-long investigation launched by the Bush administration, the feds cracked down on a ring of murder-minded black Muslim jailhouse converts preparing to bomb two Bronx synagogues and “eager to bring death to Jews.” They also planned to attack a New York National Guard air base in Newburgh, New York, where the suspects lived and worshiped at a local mosque.</p>
<p>Not one word from the president on the jihadists’ intended victims, motives, or means.</p>
<p>No comfort for the reported targets in the Big Apple, still raw from the Scare Force One rattling that so vainly and recklessly simulated 9/11.</p>
<p>No condemnation for the accused plotters.</p>
<p>Why? Because doing so would force Obama to abandon his cottony “extremist ideology” euphemisms and confront the concrete truth. To borrow one of our obtuse president’s favorite clichés, “let me be perfectly clear” about the reality Obama won’t touch: America faces an ongoing Islamic jihad at home and abroad. Not merely “man-caused.” But Koran-inspired. Yet, Obama refuses to spell out the centuries-old roots of the war that he claims he’ll win faster, better, and cleaner than any of his predecessors.</p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align: justify;">This reminds me of personal stories when somebody gets injured or has an illness&#8230; He/She hates doctors and thinks that if he/she continues to avoid the problem or the inevitable, turning a blind eye to the situation, it will just go away.  However, the opposite usually happens, without proper treatment the malady gets worse until sometimes it becomes too late&#8230;</p>
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		<title>House Representative, Schiff (D-CA), Exclaims We Should Give Terrorists Due Process Like Our Troops</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 21:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>CrabbyCon</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sheer insanity I tell you! We are living in the twilight zone&#8230;  All for the sake of political correctness? We should give terrorists due process and treat them just like our soldiers? The same guys that plotted to kill innocent American citizens? This is just nuts. The Wall Street Journal tends to take issue with [...]]]></description>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">Sheer insanity I tell you! We are living in the twilight zone&#8230;  All for the sake of political correctness?</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">We should give terrorists due process and treat them just like our soldiers? The same guys that plotted to kill innocent American citizens? This is just nuts.</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">The <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124165410800493933.html#mod=rss_opinion_main" target="_blank">Wall Street Journal</a> tends to take issue with due process for terrorists based upon national security reasons and documents that would have to be disclosed.</p>
<blockquote style="text-align: justify;"><p>&#8220;How will judges prevent the public disclosure of classified material? What about Miranda rights, or evidence obtained under battlefield conditions?</p>
<p>&#8220;<strong>Such questions nearly scuttled the Justice Department&#8217;s case against Ali Saleh Kahlah al-Marri</strong>, which flamed out last week with a sentence of only 15 years. According to the plea agreement, al-Marri entered the U.S. on September 10, 2001 on orders from Khalid Sheikh Mohammed to begin research on chemical weapons and potential targets. <strong>Prosecutors were hampered by the possibility of disclosing intelligence sources and methods, as well as (yet another) political flare-up about interrogation and detention.</strong>&#8220;</p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align: justify;">John Boehner and the House Republicans, on the other hand, are <a href="http://www.freedomproject.org/Blog/Read.aspx?GUID=7b30475c-56a3-4207-852c-f08b422d4622" target="_blank">trying to pass a bill</a> in the House that would prevent terrorists from being released on U.S. soil.</p>
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		<title>Democrats Will Not Fund Bid to Close Gitmo</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 20:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>CrabbyCon</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hooray!  Some Democrats are coming to their senses! House Democratic leaders Monday dropped President Obama&#8217;s request for $81 million to close the Guantanamo Bay prison camp, bowing to strong Republican criticism that the administration lacks a plan to relocate terror suspects detained there. I recall that 81 Million request &#8211; funny how it was named [...]]]></description>
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<p>Hooray!  Some <a href="http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/may/04/democrats-dont-fund-obamas-bid-close-guantanamo/" target="_blank">Democrats are coming to their senses</a>!</p>
<blockquote><p>House Democratic leaders Monday dropped President Obama&#8217;s request for $81 million to close the Guantanamo Bay prison camp, bowing to strong Republican criticism that the administration lacks a plan to relocate terror suspects detained there.</p></blockquote>
<p>I recall that 81 Million request &#8211; funny how it was named as something else so it would be passed but after its passage would be used for something entirely different.  Is that the transparency Obama promised the people?</p>
<blockquote><p>Mr. Obama requested the money as part a spending bill for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, but Democratic appropriators left it out of the bill circulated Monday among House Appropriations Committee staffers.</p>
<p>Republicans have been criticizing Mr. Obama for rushing to keep his campaign promise to close the prison camp at the U.S. Navy base on Cuba without a plan for what to do with the roughly 240 terrorism suspects currently held on the island.</p></blockquote>
<p>One would think that a plan and a model of some sorts would be important when dealing with something as delicate as convicted terrorists.</p>
<blockquote><p>Closing the prison &#8220;just never stood up to logic. There is no place on the planet to take the worst of the worst that would treat them as well as they are treated at [Guantanamo],&#8221; said Rep. Steve King, Iowa Republican, who visited the facility a month ago.</p>
<p>&#8220;The bottom line really is that [if the prisoners are released], innocent people will die and some of them likely will be Americans,&#8221; he said.</p></blockquote>
<p>But why would Democrats care about their own citizens?  They sympathize more with the terrorists than the Americans who would inevitably be affected by the Gitmo close and the release of these people onto our own soil and in their own backyard.  If someone who voted for Obama wants to take these guys in, then so be it &#8211; I think they should.</p>
<blockquote><p>Democratic leaders were not immediately available to comment.</p></blockquote>
<p>What&#8217;s new?</p>
<blockquote><p>Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, Nevada Democrat, previously dismissed the Republicans&#8217; objections as another example of partisan obstructionism by the minority.</p>
<p>&#8220;It would be highly irresponsible for Republicans to attempt to hold up funding as part of their just-say-no strategy,&#8221; Reid spokesman Jim Manley said.</p></blockquote>
<p>Leave it to Senator Dingy Harry Reid, who has rocks for brains to try to make this something ideological and politically based.  It honestly is in the best interest of the nation to keep that prison open or to at least have a real strategic to go forward with the plan.</p>
<blockquote><p>Senate Democrats have not come out in support of using the war-spending bill to close the prison camp, a strong signal that the move by House appropriators could kill the funding in the bill.</p></blockquote>
<p>Good!  I&#8217;ve been wondering where some of those moderate democrats went to!</p>
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		<title>Thanks, But No Thanks, Holder</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Part of a letter from Andrew C. McCarthy: Dear Attorney General Holder: [...] Moreover, in light of public statements by both you and the President, it is dismayingly clear that, under your leadership, the Justice Department takes the position that a lawyer who in good faith offers legal advice to government policy makers—like the government [...]]]></description>
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<p>Part of a letter from Andrew C. McCarthy:</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">Dear Attorney General Holder:</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">[...]</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Moreover, in light of public statements by both you and the President, it is <em>dismayingly clear that, under your leadership, the Justice Department takes the position that a lawyer who in good faith offers legal advice to government policy makers—like the government lawyers who offered good faith advice on interrogation policy—may be subject to investigation and prosecution for the content of that advice, in addition to empty but professionally damaging accusations of ethical misconduct.</em> <strong>Given that stance, any prudent lawyer would have to hesitate before offering advice to the government. </strong></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Beyond that, as elucidated in my writing (including my proposal for a new national security court, which I understand the Task Force has perused), <strong>I believe alien enemy combatants should be detained at Guantanamo Bay (or a facility like it) until the conclusion of hostilities</strong>.  This national defense measure is deeply rooted in the venerable laws of war and was reaffirmed by the Supreme Court in the 2004 Hamdi case.  <em>Yet, as recently as Wednesday, you asserted that, in your considered judgment, such notions violate America’s “commitment to the rule of law.”  Indeed, you elaborated, “Nothing symbolizes our [adminstration’s] new course more than our decision to close the prison at Guantanamo Bay….</em> President Obama believes, and I strongly agree, that Guantanamo has come to represent a time and an approach that we want to put behind us: a disregard for our centuries-long respect for the rule of law[.]”  (Emphasis added.)</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong><em>Given your policy of conducting ruinous criminal and ethics investigations of lawyers over the advice they offer the government, and your specific position that the wartime detention I would endorse is tantamount to a violation of law, it makes little sense for me to attend the Task Force meeting.</em></strong> <strong><em>After all, my choice would be to remain silent or risk jeopardizing myself.</em></strong></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">For what it may be worth, I will say this much.  For eight years, we have had a robust debate in the United States about how to handle alien terrorists captured during a defensive war authorized by Congress after nearly 3000 of our fellow Americans were annihilated.  Essentially, there have been two camps.  One calls for prosecution in the civilian criminal justice system, the strategy used throughout the 1990s.  The other calls for a military justice approach of combatant detention and war-crimes prosecutions by military commission.  Because each theory has its downsides, many commentators, myself included, have proposed a third way: a hybrid system, designed for the realities of modern international terrorism—a new system that would address the needs to protect our classified defense secrets and to assure Americans, as well as our allies, that we are detaining the right people.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">There are differences in these various proposals.  But their proponents, and adherents to both the military and civilian justice approaches, <strong>have all agreed on at least one thing:  Foreign terrorists trained to execute mass-murder attacks cannot simply be released while the war ensues and Americans are still being targeted.  We have already released too many jihadists who, as night follows day, have resumed plotting to kill Americans. </strong> Indeed, according to recent reports, a released Guantanamo detainee is now leading Taliban combat operations in Afghanistan, where President Obama has just sent additional American forces.<br />
<em>The Obama campaign smeared Guantanamo Bay as a human rights blight.  <strong>Consistent with that hyperbolic rhetoric</strong>, the President began his administration by promising to close the detention camp within a year.  The President did this even though he and you (a) agree Gitmo is a top-flight prison facility, (b) acknowledge that our nation is still at war, and (c) concede that many Gitmo detainees are extremely dangerous terrorists who cannot be tried under civilian court rules.  Patently, <strong>the commitment to close Guantanamo Bay within a year was made without a plan for what to do with these detainees who cannot be tried</strong>.</em> Consequently, the Detention Policy Task Force is not an effort to arrive at the best policy.  It is an effort to justify a bad policy that has already been adopted: to wit, the Obama administration policy to release trained terrorists outright if that’s what it takes to close Gitmo by January.
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<p style="text-align: justify;">Obviously, <em>I am powerless to stop the administration from releasing top al Qaeda operatives who planned mass-murder attacks against American cities—like Binyam Mohammed (the accomplice of “Dirty Bomber” Jose Padilla) whom the administration recently <strong>transferred to Britain, where he is now at liberty and living on public assistance</strong>.  I am similarly powerless to stop the administration from admitting into the United States such alien jihadists as the 17 remaining Uighur detainees.  According to National Intelligence Director Dennis Blair, the Uighurs will apparently live freely, on <strong>American taxpayer assistance</strong>, despite the facts that they are affiliated with a terrorist organization and have received terrorist paramilitary training.  Under federal immigration law (the 2005 REAL ID Act), those facts render them excludable from the United States. <strong>The Uighurs’ impending release is thus a remarkable development given the Obama administration’s propensity to deride its predecessor’s purported insensitivity to the rule of law.</strong> </em></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">I am, in addition, powerless to stop the President, as he takes these reckless steps, from touting his Detention Policy Task Force as a demonstration of his national security seriousness.  But <strong><em>I can decline to participate in the charade</em></strong>.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">[...]</p>
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<p>Read the entire letter <a href="http://nrinstitute.org/mustread.php" target="_blank">here</a>.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">W00T!  You can&#8217;t argue with that!</p>
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		<title>Breaking: Obama Administration Overrides DHS, CIA, etc. Will Release Chinese Terrorists</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 22:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Human Events reports: Moving quickly to release Chinese Uighur terrorists into the United States, Obama administration officials have &#8212; for the second time &#8212; overridden objections of federal agencies responsible for national security. The first time &#8212; as I reported on April 20 &#8212; the White House overrode the inter-agency panel it created from all [...]]]></description>
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<p><a href="http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=31670 " target="_blank">Human Events</a> reports:</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">Moving quickly to release Chinese Uighur terrorists into the United States, Obama administration officials have &#8212; for the second time &#8212; overridden objections of federal agencies responsible for national security.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">The first time &#8212; as I reported on April 20 &#8212; the White House overrode the inter-agency panel it created from all the national security agencies to review all the cases of the Guantanamo Bay prisoners. That panel found that the seventeen Uighurs &#8212; members of the East Turkestan Islamic Movement captured at an al-Qaeda training camp in Pakistan &#8212; were too dangerous to release in the United States.</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">I reported in more detail <a href="http://www.saveourcountrynow.net/archives/2251" target="_blank">here</a>.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[The New York Times just like their uber-left counterparts care more about islamofascist terrorists than their own country and its citizens. NYT also lied in an article last weekwhen describing the waterboarding of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.  The NYT claimed that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was waterboarded 183 times, which will become a typical liberal talking point [...]]]></description>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">The New York Times just like their uber-left counterparts care more about islamofascist terrorists than their own country and its citizens.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">NYT also <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/04/28/despite-reports-khalid-sheikh-mohammed-waterboarded-times/" target="_blank">lied in an article last week</a>when describing the waterboarding of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.  The NYT claimed that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was waterboarded 183 times, which will become a typical liberal talking point when arguing about Gitmo detainees and interrogation methods.  Khalid was only waterboarded a total of 5 times.  Let me repeat that again, 5 times!  Each of those times is timed specifically which was defined by law in order to meet specific conditions that would not be considered torture.  There is also a physician on site when waterboarding is used.</p>
<blockquote style="text-align: justify;"><p>The New York Times reported last week that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the alleged mastermind of the Sept. 11 terror attacks, was waterboarded 183 times in one month by CIA interrogators. The &#8220;183 times&#8221; was widely circulated by news outlets throughout the world.</p>
<p>It was shocking. And it was highly misleading. The number is a vast inflation, according to information from a U.S. official and the testimony of the terrorists themselves.</p>
<p>A U.S. official with knowledge of the interrogation program told FOX News that the much-cited figure represents the number of times water was poured onto Mohammed&#8217;s face &#8212; not the number of times the CIA applied the simulated-drowning technique on the terror suspect. According to a 2007 Red Cross report, he was subjected a total of &#8220;five sessions of ill-treatment.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Our own soldiers have been trained and waterboarded more times than all the detainees combined.  Only 3 of the detainees were ever waterboarded and 2 of those were major leaders in the radical Islam movement who had valuable information.  That information was disclosed to us through waterboarding.  If these detainees were only waterboarded 5-10 times total imagine how easy it would be for them to train for that now.</p>
<blockquote style="text-align: justify;"><p>&#8220;The water was poured 183 times &#8212; there were 183 pours,&#8221; the official explained, adding that &#8220;each pour was a matter of seconds.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Times and dozens of other outlets wrote that the CIA also waterboarded senior Al Qaeda member Abu Zubaydah 83 times, but Zubayda himself, a close associate of Usama bin Laden, told the Red Cross he was waterboarded no more than 10 times.</p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align: justify;">And again that would be 83 pours of water&#8230; entirely different than being waterboarded 83 times.  Each sessions consists of short and long pours of water and the specific time allotted per session was all laid out.</p>
<blockquote style="text-align: justify;"><p>The Justice Department memos described the maximum allowed use of the waterboard on any detainee, based on tactical training given to U.S. troops to resist interrogations:</p>
<p>&#8211; Five days of use in one month, with no more than two &#8220;sessions&#8221; in a day;<br />
&#8211; Up to six applications (something like a dunk) lasting more than 10 seconds but less than 40 seconds per session;<br />
&#8211; 12 minutes of total &#8220;water application&#8221; in a 24-hour period</p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align: justify;">These lying Democrats have now put our country at incredible risk and have given our enemies plenty of ammo and ability to train and be more difficult to glean information from.  As an FYI to the peaceniks &#8211; people are evil, they are not all good in this world and there is nothing you can do to change that or control that even if you can&#8217;t understand that.  Sharing tea and crumpets with them will not resolve anything, nor will it keep your country safe.</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">Real American&#8230;./Sarc!  Hey NYT &#8211; did your article happen to mention that Khalid is the one who chopped off Daniel Pearl&#8217;s head?  I guess that&#8217;s acceptible to the likes of NYT&#8230; and the hypocrites on the far left.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 19:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Obama administration is preparing to admit into the United States as many as seven Chinese Muslims who have been imprisoned at Guantanamo Bay in the first release of any of the detainees into this country, according to current and former U.S. officials. I have put classifieds into all the local papers:  Wanted: Caring Families [...]]]></description>
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<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #000000;">The Obama administration is <a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-gitmo-release24-2009apr24,0,7979465.story?track=rss" target="_blank">preparing to admit into the United States</a> as many as seven Chinese Muslims who have been imprisoned at Guantanamo Bay in the first release of any of the detainees into this country, according to current and former U.S. officials.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #000000;">I have put classifieds into all the local papers:  Wanted: Caring Families Needed to House Unfortunate Terrorists From Gitmo: 1-800-I-VOTED-4-OBAMA</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #000000;">Their release is seen as a crucial step to plans, announced by President Obama during his first week in office, to close the prison and relocate the detainees. Administration officials also believe that settling some of them in American communities will set an example, helping to persuade other nations to accept Guantanamo detainees too.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #000000;">Any detainees released into the country will most likely vote Democrat in the next elections, especially after receiving welfare payments from taxpayers.  I&#8217;m sure they will pose no threat to the country since there was probably no reason whatsoever they were detained at Gitmo in the first place/sarc.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #000000;">But the decision to release the Chinese Muslims, known as Uighurs, is not final and faces challenges from within the government, as well as likely public opposition. Among government agencies, the Homeland Security Department has registered concerns about the plan.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #000000;">The move would also incense Chinese officials, who consider the Uighurs domestic terrorists and want those held at Guantanamo handed over for investigation. U.S. officials no longer consider the Chinese Muslims to be enemy combatants and fear they would be mistreated in China.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #000000;">The Chinese will not let them back into the country and if they do re-enter they will prosecute the Uighurs as domestic terrorists, but the United States doesn&#8217;t get the hint and is admitting them into the country. </span></p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #000000;">There are 17 Uighurs (pronounced WEE-gers) at Guantanamo. A U.S. official familiar with the discussions over their release said that as many as seven could be resettled in the U.S., possibly in two or more small groups.</span><br />
<span style="color: #000000;">Officials have not said where in the United States they might live. But many Uighur immigrants from China live in Washington&#8217;s Virginia suburbs, and advocates have urged that the detainees be resettled near people who speak their language and are familiar with their customs.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #800080;"><span style="color: #000000;">I hope all my under 30 friends who voted for Obama are amenable to the fact that they could be their next-door neighbors in Northern Virginia.  The suburbs of Northern Virginia went blue and many in the area are having second thoughts about their vote.  I say too bad &#8211; you reap what you sow. </span></span></p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #000000;">The Uighurs were sent to Guantanamo in 2002 after being captured in Pakistan. Before that, they had gravitated to Afghanistan, where they received firearms training at a camp apparently run by a Uighur separatist.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #000000;">Some former U.S. officials have said government information indicates that the Uighurs may pose a danger if released. But other officials and human rights organizations insist they pose no threat to Americans.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #000000;">These men were trained and caught in camps that promote jihad.  These men are not threats to our society and the citizens of America?  Human Rights groups or U.S. Intel officials &#8211; which one would you be willing to listen to and believe when discussing the possible threats posed. </span></p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #000000;">&#8220;It is kind of hard to tell other countries you would like them to accept some of these guys from Guantanamo if you are not willing to accept them,&#8221; said the U.S. official, who described the internal discussions on condition of anonymity.</span></p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #000000;">So through the act of appeasement we need to set an example to change the minds of other countries.  It&#8217;s like the old saying:  &#8220;If someone told you to jump off a bridge, would you?&#8221;    The whole idea of making a decision that could possibly put the citizens of the United States at risk, due to the fact that there is more concern over the lives of terrorists than the lives of U.S. citizens, just reeks of idiocy and insanity!  Why would any country accept terrorists just because the U.S. does.  Is that not a little arrogant and presumptuous on our part?  If I were any other country I would look at the U.S. and say, &#8220;Good for you&#8230; but I&#8217;m not taking that chance and putting the lives of my countrymen at stake.&#8221; </span></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #000000;">The acceptance of these terrorists are also hurting foreign relations with China.  Appeasement does more harm for relations than anything else.  The more you try to please everyone, the more you upset and hurt everyone.  Evidence of this is as simple as looking at your own personal life.  Did you ever try to please all your friends when you were younger? I was in a group of friends and one of my girlfriends was an appeaser.  She would say one thing to one person and promise the opposite to another.  When word got back that she was two faced and pinning others against one another, she was the one who got in trouble, not the group.  If you don&#8217;t stand for anything you will fall for everything. </span></p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #000000;">The release is a slap in the face to Beijing, which has requested that the Uighur prisoners be repatriated to China to stand trial for separatist activities. In their testimony before the Guantanamo tribunal, the Uighurs admitted that their purpose in going to Afghanistan was to receive military training to fight Chinese rule over Xinjiang.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #000000;">&#8220;If these people are terrorists, they should be punished. If they are not terrorists, the United States should apologize to China for holding them so long and make compensation,&#8221; said Zhang Jiadong, an expert in terrorism at Fudan University&#8217;s Center for American Studies. Zhang said, however, that he did not expect the Chinese government to retaliate because it was already widely anticipated in Beijing that the United States would not return the Uighurs to China.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #000000;">Within the prison, Uighurs are not considered a grave threat and are allowed greater freedom, such as television privileges, than other detainees.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #000000;">But the TV privileges underscored potential difficulties to come, according to one current and one former U.S. official. Not long after being granted access to TV, some of the Uighurs were watching a soccer game. When a woman with bare arms was shown on the screen, one of the group grabbed the television and threw it to the ground, according to the officials.</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #000000;">They aren&#8217;t a grave threat, but when they see a woman with bare arms they throw a television screen &#8211; I&#8217;m sure that will go over real well in Northern Virginia.  &#8220;Beware of Tank Tops!&#8221;</span></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #800080;"><span style="color: #000000;">The Uighurs are not as dangerous as other detainees or terrorist groups, but they still do pose possible threats and problems to our society.  There are other societies that are more accepting of these individuals, but I fear that not only will there be problems for the Uighurs assimilating into American culture, but vice versa for Americans encountering the Uighurs if they are released.  Knowing already that they were against the Chinese government and aligned themselves with aspects of radical Islam, there is good reason to believe that they may come to dislike or despise the culture in the states after a matter of time.  Based on their behavior in Gitmo with the television incident, they may not like seeing women with equal rights to men, wearing revealing clothing, showing their hair, seeing homosexual couples in public, the practicing of various religions, etc. </span></span></p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">Nancy Pelosi is one of the most contemptible personalities in existence today.  She must be one of the most immoral characters as well.  She is now lying about the harsh interrogation methods used on terrorists and detainees in Gitmo. </p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">She was briefed along with several other colleagues back in 2002 after the 9/11 attacks and after a legal team and the CIA put together techniques that could be used but would not be considered torture under international treaties/law.  One of those techniques is called waterboarding; something Nancy Pelosi says she didn&#8217;t know about, or at least did not know that the technique would actually be used on a detainee. </p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">I <a href="http://www.saveourcountrynow.net/archives/2102" target="_blank">already posted</a> on the fact that Pelosi was made privy to all of this information back in 2002 and was even shown waterboarding.  Those who attended the meeting even asked whether or not these techniques would be harsh enough.  She now has the audacity to sit there and <a href="http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/0409/Pelosi_I_didnt_know_about_waterboarding.html" target="_blank">lie to the public</a> about what she knew.  She has the gall to lie to us and treat the public like morons by stating she did not realize those techniques would actually be used on the detainees!  Are you kidding me Nancy?</p>
<blockquote><p>Pelosi says she was briefed by Bush administration officials on the legal justification for using waterboarding — but that they never followed through on promises to inform her when they actually began using &#8220;enhanced&#8221; interrogation techniques</p>
<p>&#8220;In that or any other briefing…we were not, and I repeat, were not told that waterboarding or any of these other enhanced interrogation techniques were used. What they did tell us is that they had some legislative counsel &#8230; opinions that they could be used,&#8221; she told reporters today.</p>
<p>Earlier, House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) criticized Pelosi and other Democratic leaders for backing probes into the use of waterboarding — after reportedly failing to raise objections during a briefing on its potential use in 2002.</p>
<p>&#8220;Well, yesterday I saw a partial list of the number of members of the House and Senate, Democrats and Republicans, who were briefed on these interrogation methods and not a word was raised at the time, not one word,&#8221; Boehner told reporters at his weekly news availability.</p>
<p>&#8220;And I think you&#8217;re going to hear more and more about the bigger picture here, that what — the war on terror after 9/11 was done in a bipartisan basis on lots of fronts. And that bigger story will be coming out,&#8221; he added.</p>
<p>Pelosi says members who receive classified intelligence briefings are powerless to act on them — or even discuss them with staff &#8212; due to confidentiality requirements.</p>
<p>As a consequence, some members simply skip classified briefings to avoid being &#8220;hamstrung&#8221; by requirements they keep silent on the topics discussed.</p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align: justify;">So Nancy, just how stupid do you think we are? Or put another way, just how stupid do we now believe you are?</p>
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In the immediate post-9/11 atmosphere, did you really think the Intelligence community was only going to just &#8220;talk&#8221; about using enhanced interrogation techniques on captured high-level personnel?  Nancy, are you really that stupid as to believe that?  You believe the Intel types went to all the trouble of researching the techniques, getting legal opinions that ok&#8217;d their use&#8230;and then what? Let these masterminds of terror sit there in their cells getting three squares a day on our dime?
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<p style="text-align: justify;">Nancy, if you really are that stupid and dim-witted, then you have no business whatsoever being in a governing, leadership position (You could still be in the government with those qualifications but definitely not Speaker of the House).  You should resign immediately. If you&#8217;re not that dim-witted, then you are an obvious liar that holds the average citizen&#8217;s intelligence in contempt. Again, you should resign immediately. Either way, Nancy, your response to this issue has tested you and found you completely lacking in integrity, honesty, and leadership. You don&#8217;t belong in DC, please leave and DLTDHYOTAOTWO.</p>
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