I will be taking bets later… Make a guess for Pelosi stepping down this year…

The sharks are circling and the Democrats sense it.  Steny Hoyer wants to be speaker and other Democrats don’t want to be associated with this woman or her statements.  Even lefty Leon Panetta is backing the CIA and speaking to his employees to reassure them that they acted appropriately and nobody lied or misled congress.

CIA Director Leon Panetta just sent a stern message to his employees defending the agency against Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s criticisms.

His message: We didn’t mislead Congress; stay focused on your job.

Panetta’s note was sent to reporters via the CIA press office. Here’s the key graph:

“Let me be clear: It is not our policy or practice to mislead Congress. That is against our laws and our values. As the Agency indicated previously in response to Congressional inquiries, our contemporaneous records from September 2002 indicate that CIA officers briefed truthfully on the interrogation of Abu Zubaydah, describing “the enhanced techniques that had been employed.” Ultimately, it is up to Congress to evaluate all the evidence and reach its own conclusions about what happened.”

The full Panetta memo is here.

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The UK news is reporting that the photos Obama was supposedly protecting were somehow leaked to reporters in Australia.  If this is the case, then surely there was never any attempt to be made to truly protect these photos or the national security of the United States.  This grandstanding on the photos was a smoke screen to gain political capital after looking at the polling data that showed most Americans did not want the photos released, nor do they want these detainees in their backyards, etc.  This gave Obama leeway to say it was not his doing or his fault for the leaks or the release.  It will only be speculation that he had planned this to happen:

Photographs of the alleged abuse of prisoners in Iraq thought to be among those that  Barack Obama is trying to prevent from being published have been released.

Pictures apparently showing Iraqi inmates being subjected to degrading treatment were disclosed the day after Mr Obama announced a legal bid to stop more than 2,000 images being seen.

It is alleged that the pictures, one of which shows a naked man hung upside down from a bunk bed, are among those that the president wanted suppressed.

Mr Obama fears a backlash against U.S. troops serving in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Further images purportedly from the 2,000 include one of a naked man covered in excrement with a guard standing in front of him.

Others yet to be released are alleged to show guards threatening to sexually assault a detainee with a broomstick and hooded prisoners in transport planes with copies of Playboy magazine showing naked women open on their laps.

The president had previously committed to allowing them to be seen but changed his mind after senior generals said it could place U.S. troops serving in Iraq and Afghanistan in greater danger.

The images were released in Australia yesterday where they were originally obtained by the television channel SBS in the wake of the Abu Ghraib prison abuse scandal.

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Democrats love to grandstand on torture and wars, but behind closed doors when they think nobody is watching or listening, they are for it.  Double standards run amok.  Please look in the mirror Dems – it may be helpful!

So again, can we please put these Democrats making statements and approving of waterboarding up on the stand during the truth commissions as well? I feel it would only be fair so the Americans can get the full picture!

So here is the new audio that was uncovered of Schumer’s statement in 2004… and then his latest MSNBC mumbo jumbo about interrogations just last month!

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Nancy Pelosi continues to dig herself a deeper hole.  She says one thing then another, but then she says something else entirely a week later.  It’s quite obvious that this woman is a lying weasel.  She should be interrogated intensely or at least strapped to a lie detector test.  I’m so tired of this woman and uber liberals who spin information for a political agenda without any regard for national security.

Nancy Pelosi stated that she received inaccurate and misleading information.  She continued to say that the CIA misled the Congress, even though other members who attended the briefings state otherwise and have a different recollection of the information provided.  The CIA is not an entity I would want to mess with or malign for self-centered political gain.

Republicans and Democrats are requesting that the CIA release and declassify the notes from the briefings.  What political motives does the CIA have to “mislead” the public?  They don’t get voted in or need to worry about what they say or do to make a constituency happy…

It should be appalling to everyone that Piglosi actually stated that she was more concerned with politics than the security of Americans when she admitted that she was not aware of the policies, although ranking members are usually kept completely abreast of any and all information in Congress, but rather, the next elections to gain a Democrat majority.

At what point can you impeach or fire a member of Congress for lying or perjury?

Here is a video clip of Piglosi lying out of her teeth:

For Republican reaction go here…

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Well, if we are into persecuting people, maybe we should persecute Democrats for all their fraud and corruption and their collapsing of the economy – Dodd and Frank would be the first two up!

So with that said – the only way to resolve that is to dump Dodd and vote for Rob Simmons!

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Condi talks “torture” with typical idealistic, indoctrinated ivy league students…

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The New York Times just like their uber-left counterparts care more about islamofascist terrorists than their own country and its citizens.

NYT also lied in an article last weekwhen describing the waterboarding of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.  The NYT claimed that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was waterboarded 183 times, which will become a typical liberal talking point when arguing about Gitmo detainees and interrogation methods.  Khalid was only waterboarded a total of 5 times.  Let me repeat that again, 5 times!  Each of those times is timed specifically which was defined by law in order to meet specific conditions that would not be considered torture.  There is also a physician on site when waterboarding is used.

The New York Times reported last week that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the alleged mastermind of the Sept. 11 terror attacks, was waterboarded 183 times in one month by CIA interrogators. The “183 times” was widely circulated by news outlets throughout the world.

It was shocking. And it was highly misleading. The number is a vast inflation, according to information from a U.S. official and the testimony of the terrorists themselves.

A U.S. official with knowledge of the interrogation program told FOX News that the much-cited figure represents the number of times water was poured onto Mohammed’s face — not the number of times the CIA applied the simulated-drowning technique on the terror suspect. According to a 2007 Red Cross report, he was subjected a total of “five sessions of ill-treatment.”

Our own soldiers have been trained and waterboarded more times than all the detainees combined.  Only 3 of the detainees were ever waterboarded and 2 of those were major leaders in the radical Islam movement who had valuable information.  That information was disclosed to us through waterboarding.  If these detainees were only waterboarded 5-10 times total imagine how easy it would be for them to train for that now.

“The water was poured 183 times — there were 183 pours,” the official explained, adding that “each pour was a matter of seconds.”

The Times and dozens of other outlets wrote that the CIA also waterboarded senior Al Qaeda member Abu Zubaydah 83 times, but Zubayda himself, a close associate of Usama bin Laden, told the Red Cross he was waterboarded no more than 10 times.

And again that would be 83 pours of water… entirely different than being waterboarded 83 times.  Each sessions consists of short and long pours of water and the specific time allotted per session was all laid out.

The Justice Department memos described the maximum allowed use of the waterboard on any detainee, based on tactical training given to U.S. troops to resist interrogations:

– Five days of use in one month, with no more than two “sessions” in a day;
– Up to six applications (something like a dunk) lasting more than 10 seconds but less than 40 seconds per session;
– 12 minutes of total “water application” in a 24-hour period

These lying Democrats have now put our country at incredible risk and have given our enemies plenty of ammo and ability to train and be more difficult to glean information from.  As an FYI to the peaceniks – people are evil, they are not all good in this world and there is nothing you can do to change that or control that even if you can’t understand that.  Sharing tea and crumpets with them will not resolve anything, nor will it keep your country safe.

Real American…./Sarc!  Hey NYT – did your article happen to mention that Khalid is the one who chopped off Daniel Pearl’s head?  I guess that’s acceptible to the likes of NYT… and the hypocrites on the far left.

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Ms. Cheney rocks this interview and she is one heck of a debater!

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The cat is out of the bag and Cheney did make a hand-written request to the CIA to release the entire documentation/memos of the detainee interrogations.

The White House and some CIA officials were denying that Cheney ever made that request, however, this documentation has been found and it appears that both the White House and the CIA members who were scared to go against the orders of the current Executive Branch lied to try and discredit Cheney so they could get away with only releasing the “torture.”

You can find Cheney’s hand-written request here.

Politico reported on this:

The form filed with the National Archives’ Presidential Libraries section on March 31 of this year shows that Cheney asked for declassification review of the two items from a folder called “detainees” within “OVP Cheney immediate office files.” The titles of the memoranda or reports were blacked out for classification reasons, however, one memo sought was dated July 13, 2004, and totaled eight pages, and another dated June 1, 2005, totals 13 pages.

Cheney filled out the request himself–it’s in his handwriting. The Archives later amended Cheney’s request to describe the two records simply as CIA reports (probably more vaguely than the ex-veep did). The archvists also upped the page counts to a total of 31.

I’m looking further at those dates to see whether we can identify the documents indpendently. However, June 1, 2005 seems to coincide with a time frame involving a lot of action surrounding the legal justifications for the interrogation program. One Justice Department memo released last week, finding the techniques did not constitute torture under international law, was issued on May 30, 2005, just a day before the document Cheney asked for.

National Archives officials said earlier this week that the request has been routed to the CIA for action.

POLITICO obtained Cheney’s request under the Freedom of Information Act.

UPDATE: The July 13, 2004, memo seems to coincide roughly with a meeting the CIA held with the so-called principals of the National Security Council to discuss the status of the interrogation efforts and perhaps to discuss a May 2004 report from the CIA’s inspector general on the program. The meeting was revealed in a chronology issued this week by the Senate Intelligence Committee.

UPDATE 2: Blogger Marcy Wheeler points out that the July 13 date is also the same as a CIA report called “Preeminent Source” about Khaled Sheikh Mohammed. The report is referenced in the same May 30, 2005 legal memo. So likely that’s one item Cheney was after.

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Keith Olbermann, who is against waterboarding, would be willing to give money to have Hannity waterboarded.  This is quite interesting, you think that if you were against waterboarding, you would be completely against it.  I guess if you are a conservative, you can be waterboarded in Olbermann’s opinion. 

The rest of this video clip is nonsense.  The fact that a Huffington Post editor is brought onto this show proves that no experts or legitimate folks are on this network.  For Olbermann to bring up moral equivalency, morals, ethics and integrity is quite laughable especially after the shenanigans that the Democrats have been involved in over the years and even more so recently.

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